http://bisonsurvivalblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/fundamentals-nuke-bread.html
Earlier today I decided to make myself a batch of "nuke bread" using some White Lilly self-rising flour and some water. My mother thought I was crazy, and she wasn't happy for quite some time because I got flour and wet dough all over the counter. I personally don't like to use the Nazi Nuclear Nuke Oven, but the majority of Americans seem to rely on it for quick meals. Maybe I am just over reacting about the relationship microwaves have with cancer, being the "weirdo" I am. This didn't stop me from mixing up a small batch of "nuke dough" and putting the recipe to the test. I felt I had the correct mixture when the dough was quite easy to stir but not watery to the point where it would flow. I carefully smeared the dough onto a small saucer plate, and placed it in the microwave for 3 minutes. My mother's microwave is of decent size, and after about 2 minutes I could smell and visually see the dough starting to rise. After the 3 minutes, I flipped the still doughy disk over and nuked it for another minute. The timer went off, and I removed the hot saucer from the microwave. Personally, I feel I left it in there to long and it got hard. It was a little hard prying it off the plate, but after letting it cool for 3-5 minutes I was looking forward to seeing how it tasted after being prepared in the Nazi Nuclear Nuke Oven. To my surprise, it tasted pretty damn good. The edges were a little hard and cracker like, but overall it tasted a lot like thin crust pizza dough. I only used two ingredients (water and self-rising flour) and it was quite palatable without butter or salt. Compliments to the chef, thanks Jim!
Sincerely, travel trailer hermit........
Doesn't sound to me like a very heathly meal
ReplyDeleteMay I suggest you try making chapatis. All you need are 2 cups flour, pinch of salt, 2 or 3 tablespoons of butter or oil, and enough water to mix. Roll it flat and cook in a flat pan until you have light brown spots on it. Kinda like a tortilla but taster and no nuke required.
ReplyDeletebasic bread isn't exactly "healthy", however it might keep you alive in times of famine, etc. My grandfather worked in the coal mines for almost 30 years, and my grandmother would prepare "Flitters" for him every morning before work. It was kinda like flat bread, however it was quite thick (around 3/4 inch). Thanks for the recipe Anonymous, I plan on giving it a try... I would rather waste a little fuel with the stove top method then worry about the dangers of Microwave use.
ReplyDeleteMy ex-wife was from Southeast Asia and her family had chapatis every night. It can't be to unhealthly, her father lived to be 101 years old.
ReplyDelete"I would rather waste a little fuel with the stove top method then worry about the dangers of Microwave use."
ReplyDeleteDo a search on how to make a simple alcohol burning soda can stove, as well as the solar cookers Hermit. I believe that it was Vlad from Dakin's site that mentioned a very simple variation on the solar cooker that involved cutting the sidewall from a tire, placing it over a piece of black painted plywood, then placing a pane of glass\plastic over it.
I did hear a story once about how the Viet Cong could fight all day on a half cup of cooked rice... I don't know if the story had any truth to it, but i guess the nutrients in basic grain can keep the body going....
ReplyDeleteI did not consider an alcohol can stove. that does seem like a great ideal, and the main design that comes to my mind is a simple hobo stove. Thanks Anonymous, and i will do a Google search asap. If you happen to have the link to Jim's post that covered it, please leave it in a comment or send me an Email. This might just be the alternative that I'm looking for...... Thanks for the input!!!
I tried to find it for you buddy, but unfortunately it's buried in the comments section of one of his posts from some months back. It was a comment from Vlad. I believe that what he said was to cut the sidewall from a tire of a width that will be taller than the container that you plan on using. Then spray paint black a piece of plywood to set the tire on, and place a window pane over the tire. I see that Vlad has a contact Email on his user profile.
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But aside from the above, there are many plans online that I have seen. Most of them utilize those silver reflective shields that people place on their car windshields.
Sorting through the comment section can seem like HELL sometimes. I got a busy day ahead of me, but if i get time i might Google some solar oven plans. With the alcohol can stove, do you use regular rubbing alcohol? would it be safe indoors?
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I use denatured alcohol hermit. It's cheap and readily available. I recall trying the 70% rubbing alcohol in my alcohol lamp once before, and it didn't work? But I do believe that I have seen a higher percentage of rubbing alcohol before, like 90%? That would probably work? Any high percentage alcohol like Bacardi 151 or ever clear will work.
ReplyDeleteAs far as burning in doors, the soda can stove puts off a small flame, and most trailers are not that air tight, but just to be on the safe side it wouldn't hurt to crack a window?
I recommend that you get a combination Carbon Monoxide\smoke detector hermit. I think I only paid $25.00 for the one at my cabin that works off of batteries, and it's cheap, life saving insurance. As far as propane heaters go, the Mr Buddy heaters that I have seen have a built in low oxygen shut off valve, but I would still get the above mentioned detector.
Cheers,
wc
I seen a website a few mins ago called sodacanstove.com or something like that... It looked like a pretty good cheap setup for basic cooking. They also mentioned Denatured Alcohol. But here is a question, does this tiny stove produce heat? could it be used as a small source of heat?
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ReplyDeleteHmmm? Not sure about that Hermit? It's a small flame, and while your trailer is small, I don't know if it could heat it very well? The other thing is that being an open flame, I don't think that it would be safe, even with adequate ventilation due to the fire hazard involved. But as I'm typing this, I have discovered a small alcohol heater\stove that's sold by Gander mountain, so apparently it's possible to use an alcohol stove in this way depending on the design? Though I'm really not so sure about the soda can stove?
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Contoure-HeatMate-Alcohol-Heater/Stove&i=90142&r=view&aID=505O2A&cvsfa=2586&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=3930313432&s_kwcid=goobase_goobase_filler&cID=GSHOP_90142
Wood is the cheapest way to go if you can find a small enough stove, and happen to live in a wooded area and can cut your own.
If I come across anything, I'll post it here. As always though, I would get as many opinions as possible when it comes to something that has the potential to be dangerous.
Cheers,
wc
My dad still heats his 3 bedroom 1 bath house with wood (some of my fondest memories as a kid), and it is readily available in my area. If i could find a super small wood burner I would attempt to find a place in my camper to put it... I seen in an old Lehman's catalog a stove they referred to as "a survival dual fuel stove" but i don't know if it was an indoor model or if i would even have enough room for it...
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ReplyDeleteThe smallest wood burning stoves that I have seen were the ones that Cabela's sells for their outfitter tents.
A few times in the sportsman's guide I saw pretty much the same kind of stove at a reasonable price, and it was in their military surplus section.
Yes, it might be tough getting a stove in a small camper? It would have to be pretty small, and you would probably have to use heat tiles on the wall nearest the stove?
wc
Yes, wc i believe i have seen the small tent stoves you are talking about... That type of stove would work wonderful, but space does become a issue... I seen a few marine wood stoves that are common in boats, but they are rather bulky too. If you get time google Birdhammer, its a blog about a woman who lives in a homemade camper top that sits on a 70s or 80s model Ford pickup, and she has a tiny little marine stove in her's. On one post she complained about how it wouldnt keep fire no longer than about 30-40 mins because it was so small. She mostly burnt twigs and what not.
ReplyDelete"On one post she complained about how it wouldnt keep fire no longer than about 30-40 mins because it was so small. She mostly burnt twigs and what not."
ReplyDeleteSomething like this just might work Hermit, if you can keep the heat in somehow? Seems to me that I recall Dakin lining the interior of his trailer with a blanket or the such, in order to keep the warmth in? In the wonderful little book, "Travel trailer homesteading for under $5K" one of the first things that the author did was to insulate the floor of his trailer, and according to him, it helped considerably? If you can still find a copy of that book, I would recommend getting it, as there are some good tips within.
Haven't checked it out yet, but I'll bet Creekmore's book has a few good tips? I'll have to put that one on my wishlist.
wc
I have read Brian Kelling's 5k travel trailer homesteading book, it was wonderful. I plan on using clear plastic to block out wind from blowing under the camper during the cold months. Interior insulation will have to do, but Saturday while i was up dad's the temps were around 38F degrees outside with slight gusts of wind, but my micro thermometer that I brought for the inside of my trailer was showing 49F degrees, so it must hold quite a bit of thermal heat. I dont think the little Mr. Buddy will burn to much fuel, and it should heat the area quite well. The temps here rarely drop down below 10F degrees, and we consider that super super cold.
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